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 I know you’ve read the newspaper doctors telling you a glass of wine helps your heart, or whatever. For some reason the studies refuting that nonsense aren’t quite as “newsworthy”.
-[file:///C:/Users/Public/User/Documents/JESUS/Email/HEALTH%20%20The%20truth%20about%20booze%20how%20alcohol%20really%20affects%20your%20body,%20from%20first%20flush%20of%20happiness%20to%20hangover%20hell%20Health%20&%20wellbeing%20The%20Guardian.htm The Guardian], May 24, 2023: "Still, a glass of wine a day might help your longevity, right? Well, unfortunately, rumours of booze’s effectiveness in that area may have been exaggerated. “For a long time, I think we’ve told ourselves alcohol is good for us, partly because we enjoy drinking it,” says Dr Sadie Boniface, head of research at the Institute of Alcohol Studies. “But [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37000449/ science has debunked] some of the ‘health benefits’ of moderate drinking, and one thing I think people generally don’t understand is that the official drinking guidelines are for ‘low-risk’ alcohol consumption, not ‘safe’ consumption."
+[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/may/24/the-truth-about-booze-how-alcohol-really-affects-your-body-from-first-flush-of-happiness-to-hangover-hell The Guardian], May 24, 2023: "Still, a glass of wine a day might help your longevity, right? Well, unfortunately, rumours of booze’s effectiveness in that area may have been exaggerated. “For a long time, I think we’ve told ourselves alcohol is good for us, partly because we enjoy drinking it,” says Dr Sadie Boniface, head of research at the Institute of Alcohol Studies. “But [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37000449/ science has debunked] some of the ‘health benefits’ of moderate drinking, and one thing I think people generally don’t understand is that the official drinking guidelines are for ‘low-risk’ alcohol consumption, not ‘safe’ consumption."
 The fact is God would not instruct Paul to tell anyone to consume alcohol for health, if alcohol does not improve health, and according to the evidence we have so far, it does not. The evidence that Paul associated fresh juice with stomach health is that we find that same association in other Greek literature where it is clear that fresh juice is meant.

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 wine H3196 what does a context study show? yayin
 Red identifies a context where the drink is clearly intoxicating. Blue: clearly not. Black: ambiguous.
-<span style="color:red">Gen_9:21; Gen_9:24;</span> Gen_14:18; [Melchizadek] <span style="color:red">Gen_19:32; Gen_19:33; Gen_19:34; Gen_19:35;</span> Gen_27:25; [Jacob drank before blessing] Gen_49:11; Gen_49:12; Exo_29:40; <span style="color:red">Lev_10:9;</span> Lev_23:13; Num_6:3; Num_6:4; Num_6:20; Num_15:5; Num_15:7; Num_15:10; Num_28:14; Deu_14:26; Deu_28:39; Deu_29:6; Deu_32:33; Deu_32:38; Jos_9:4; Jos_9:13; Jdg_13:4; Jdg_13:7; Jdg_13:14; Jdg_19:19; 1Sa_1:14; 1Sa_1:15; 1Sa_1:24; 1Sa_10:3; 1Sa_16:20; <span style="color:red">1Sa_25:18; 1Sa_25:37; 2Sa_13:28;</span> 2Sa_16:1; 2Sa_16:2; 1Ch_9:29; 1Ch_12:40; 1Ch_27:27; 2Ch_2:10; 2Ch_2:15; 2Ch_11:11; Neh_2:1; Neh_5:15; Neh_5:18; Neh_13:15; <span style="color:red">Est_1:7;</span> Est_1:10; Est_5:6; Est_7:2; Est_7:7; Est_7:8; Job_1:13; Job_1:18; <span style="color:blue">Job_32:19; [Does fermented wine still expand? I don’t think so.]</span> Psa_60:3; <span style="color:#blue">Psa_75:8; [“the wine is fermented”? Redundant if “wine” already means “fermented”]</span> '''Psa_78:65; like a man shouts for joy from wine? Psa_104:15;''' Pro_4:17; Pro_9:2; Pro_9:5; '''Pro_20:1; Pro_21:17;''' Pro_23:20; Pro_23:30; '''Pro_23:31; Pro_31:4; Pro_31:6;''' Ecc_2:3; <span style="color:green">Ecc_9:7; Ecc_10:19;</span> Son_1:2; Son_1:4; Son_2:4; Son_4:10; Son_5:1; Son_7:9; Son_8:2; <span style="color:#red">Isa_5:11;</span> Isa_5:12; <span style="color:#red">Isa_5:22;</span> Isa_16:10; Isa_22:13; Isa_24:9; Isa_24:11; <span style="color:#red">Isa_28:1; Isa_28:7; Isa_29:9; Isa_51:21;</span> Isa_55:1; Isa_56:12; Jer_13:12; <span style="color:#red">Jer_23:9;</span> Jer_25:15; Jer_35:2; Jer_35:5; Jer_35:6; Jer_35:8; Jer_35:14; Jer_40:10; Jer_40:12; Jer_48:33; <span style="color:#red">Jer_51:7;</span> Lam_2:12; Eze_27:18; Eze_44:21; Dan_1:5; '''Dan_1:8'''; Dan_1:16; Dan_10:3; '''Hos_4:11'''; Hos_7:5; Hos_9:4; Hos_14:7; '''Joe_1:5'''; Joe_3:3; Amo_2:8; Amo_2:12; Amo_5:11; Amo_6:6; Amo_9:14; Mic_2:11; Mic_6:15; Hab_2:5; Zep_1:13; Hag_2:12; Zec_9:15; Zec_10:7.
+<span style="color:red">Gen_9:21; Gen_9:24;</span> Gen_14:18; [Melchizadek] <span style="color:red">Gen_19:32; Gen_19:33; Gen_19:34; Gen_19:35;</span> Gen_27:25; [Jacob drank before blessing] Gen_49:11; Gen_49:12; Exo_29:40; <span style="color:red">Lev_10:9;</span> Lev_23:13; Num_6:3; Num_6:4; Num_6:20; Num_15:5; Num_15:7; Num_15:10; Num_28:14; Deu_14:26; Deu_28:39; Deu_29:6; Deu_32:33; Deu_32:38; Jos_9:4; Jos_9:13; Jdg_13:4; Jdg_13:7; Jdg_13:14; Jdg_19:19; 1Sa_1:14; 1Sa_1:15; 1Sa_1:24; 1Sa_10:3; 1Sa_16:20; <span style="color:red">1Sa_25:18; 1Sa_25:37; 2Sa_13:28;</span> 2Sa_16:1; 2Sa_16:2; 1Ch_9:29; 1Ch_12:40; 1Ch_27:27; 2Ch_2:10; 2Ch_2:15; 2Ch_11:11; Neh_2:1; Neh_5:15; Neh_5:18; Neh_13:15; <span style="color:red">Est_1:7;</span> Est_1:10; Est_5:6; Est_7:2; Est_7:7; Est_7:8; Job_1:13; Job_1:18; <span style="color:blue">Job_32:19; [Does fermented wine still expand? I don’t think so.]</span> Psa_60:3; <span style="color:#blue">Psa_75:8; [“the wine is fermented”? Redundant if “wine” already means “fermented”]</span> '''Psa_78:65; like a man shouts for joy from wine? Psa_104:15;''' Pro_4:17; Pro_9:2; Pro_9:5; '''Pro_20:1; Pro_21:17;''' Pro_23:20; Pro_23:30; '''Pro_23:31; Pro_31:4; Pro_31:6;''' Ecc_2:3; <span style="color:green">Ecc_9:7; Ecc_10:19;</span> Son_1:2; Son_1:4; Son_2:4; Son_4:10; Son_5:1; Son_7:9; Son_8:2; <span style="color:red">Isa_5:11;</span> Isa_5:12; <span style="color:#red">Isa_5:22;</span> Isa_16:10; Isa_22:13; Isa_24:9; Isa_24:11; <span style="color:red">Isa_28:1; Isa_28:7; Isa_29:9; Isa_51:21;</span> Isa_55:1; Isa_56:12; Jer_13:12; <span style="color:red">Jer_23:9;</span> Jer_25:15; Jer_35:2; Jer_35:5; Jer_35:6; Jer_35:8; Jer_35:14; Jer_40:10; Jer_40:12; Jer_48:33; <span style="color:red">Jer_51:7;</span> Lam_2:12; Eze_27:18; Eze_44:21; Dan_1:5; '''Dan_1:8'''; Dan_1:16; Dan_10:3; '''Hos_4:11'''; Hos_7:5; Hos_9:4; Hos_14:7; '''Joe_1:5'''; Joe_3:3; Amo_2:8; Amo_2:12; Amo_5:11; Amo_6:6; Amo_9:14; Mic_2:11; Mic_6:15; Hab_2:5; Zep_1:13; Hag_2:12; Zec_9:15; Zec_10:7.
 '''Smith Bible Dictionary:''' It has been disputed whether the Hebrew wine was fermented; but the impression produced on the mind by a general review of the above notices is that the Hebrew words indicating wine refer to fermented, intoxicating wine. The notices of fermentation are not very decisive.
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 Can grape juice ferment without yeast? The simple answer is your juice is naturally fermenting because of wild yeast. This is why a wine will ferment without adding yeast, at all. This would eliminate any chance of a wine fermentation occurring from the natural yeast that was on the grapes....
 Can old grape juice make you sick? Unopened juice has a shelf-life of 12 months. But juice can spoil once opened, whether refrigerated or not. Spoiled juice has an off odor and flavor, and drinking it will cause your kids to have stomachaches and diarrhea. https://askinglot.com/how-long-does-grape-juice-take-to-ferment
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