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<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You can "comment" not only at the end of any article here, but ''in'' the article, by the point with which you want to interact. You can also vote, "Like", rate, or argue. Also you can change your past comment, add a section with a heading that appears in the Table of Contents, start a new article, use colors, or write in Greek! Find suggestions and codes at [[Begin!]]</span>
  
[[Immigration]]
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==Politics==
  
[[Setting Immigration Quotas - the Mystery of the Wages]]
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[[Election Fraud]] What can we do to ensure future fair elections? Consider the degree of election fraud we have just been through, the degree of Republican acceptance of the results as correct despite the fraud, and now with the fraud machine in charge of the U.S. legislature and presidency while promising to pack the courts, while free speech is being completely shut down in our newsrooms and social media against any suggestion of the least fraud. What will keep fraud from spreading to the remaining 44 states, and from presidential elections on down the line - if they haven't already? What courageous new movement will rise to restore honest elections?
  
[[Whose Expertise Inspired Our Immigration Laws%3F]]
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[[God's Coronavirus Cure in 3 Verses]] (Probably a situation that brings most politics to a screeching halt, shutting down entire legislatures, should be classified as "political")
  
[[Democrat Platform on immigration]]
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[[Judicial Accountability Act: How Legislatures can stop judges from legislating]]
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[[This Judge ruled like a Christian Historian]]
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[[Climate Change]]
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===Life===
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[[Scriptures SCOTUS must address before saying Christianity supports abortion]] Roe v. Wade said part of the reason "the judiciary, at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is unable to speculate as to the answer...to 'when life begins'" was because preachers and doctors don't agree! Yet no preacher from the last 1,000 years was consulted! So obviously, SCOTUS' theology is due for an update. 
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[[A Law Designed to Force Courts to Address Evidence of Life]]
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[[Four_Drawbacks_of_a_No-Right-to-Abortion_State_Constitutional_Amendment]]
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[[Answers to Lawmakers' Objections]]
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[[The consensus of court-recognized fact-finders that babies are people even before they are born]]
  
[[Republican Platform on immigration]]
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[[Abortion Law Alabama]]
  
[[Gospel Light turned off by Christians]]
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[[Missouri Encyclopedia of Abortion Arguments]]
  
 
[[Abortion]]
 
[[Abortion]]
  
[[Template]]
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[[Outreach to 2800 Republican Lawmakers in 30 States where Republicans Control Both Chambers]]
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[[Forsythe]]
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===Freedom of Speech===
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[[Free Speech Laws, Precedents & Scripture]]
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===Immigration===
  
==Ways you can contribute==
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[[Another AntiImmigrant Bible Claim]]
  
Your contribution is welcome. Sign your contribution with 4 tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki>.
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[[Deadly Immigration Rhetoric]]
  
'''The simplest way to contribute''' is on the "Discussion" page, which is like a place to leave comments. That page is also appropriate if your point is general, and not directed to any specific point on this page.
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[[Many of our ancestors documented THEMSELVES]]
  
'''To clarify''' something on this page, you may edit the text directly to correct simple errors like typos or even awkward grammar, or even different word choices that strengthen the flow of thought. You needn't sign where your contribution does not change the meaning.
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[[The Immigration Solution best for our Economy, our Security, and our Faith]]
  
'''To dispute or add''' up to a paragraph, start a new indented paragraph (insert colon at beginning) after the point about which you have something to say. Please begin your paragraph with a word after the colon describing the nature of your interaction. Examples: "Clarification", "Correction", "Corroboration", "Criticism", "Counterpoint", "Consideration", "Friendly Amendment", "Argument", "Rebuttal", "Additional point", "More Evidence".
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[[Cruz, Trump, Keyes, and the Bible]]
  
'''To add much more than a paragraph,''' make a new subsection by putting 4 equals signs on either side of your heading. You could use a word like those just suggested, followed by a colon or dash, and a headline that describes your point.  For sample verbiage and codes to help you do this, that you can copy, paste, and adapt, see [[Template]].
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[["Never Trump" and the Bible]]
  
'''You can add a whole new article.''' You can make your paragraph or section a summary of a different article, with a link to it. To create a new article on this website, type your article headline in "search", click "search", and an empty page ready for you to fill appears with your headline. Or type your headline (case sensitive) in the list at [[The Forum]]. When you click "save page", your headline will become active. Click it and the empty page with your headline will appear.
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[[Democrat Platform on immigration]]
  
'''Advantages of mirror articles.''' If you post articles elsewhere, you can "mirror" them here too, and link each article to its mirror. Overdoing this will trigger penalties from search engines. But the legitimate reason here is that the two kinds of formats complement each other: a blog post preserves the original version, while the Wiki invites more reader feedback where quality is encouraged by (1) the prohibition of ad hominem attacks, (2) the possibility of very specific feedback by posting it next to the subject matter referred to, and (3) the interaction with other readers, with the option of keeping contributions distinct or of merging comments to eliminate redundancy, or both.
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[[Republican Platform on immigration]]
  
==How to use the software==
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:[[Republican and Democrat Immigration Platforms are Similar]]
  
Basics: To create a new article, go to [[The Forum#Index of Articles Posted]], click "Edit", type your title in the list at the bottom, and surround it with double brackets. Click "Save" at the bottom; then your title will become clickable. Click on it, and a new blank page with that title will appear, ready for you to write. '''Easier way''': to create a new article ''without'' listing it on this page, just type your article title in the search box and click "search".
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[[Immigration]] ''(Comparing what parties and candidates say)''
 
To separate paragraphs, put a space between them.
 
  
If you would like this font for your paragraph,
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[[Setting Immigration Quotas - the Mystery of the Wages]] ''(There is no measure of the number best for citizens)''
in this kind of a highlighted box,
 
put a space at the beginning of it.
 
  But you have to break up your paragraph
 
into short lines with a space starting each line
 
because otherwise your words will run off the screen. They won't "wrap". Which is a real bummer if you have something very important to say which you put off to the very end.
 
  
<code>Here's another way to highlight text.</code>
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[[Whose Expertise Inspired Our Immigration Laws?]] ''(U.S. immigration policy is driven by those who have least studied the key facts)''
  
<code>With <nowiki><code>(your paragraph)</code></nowiki> the text will wrap, and the greyed text box will only go as far as the text does, but each line will have its own distinct box instead of a single box for the whole paragraph. </code>
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[[Personal to Ted Cruz]]
  
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===Sudan===
  
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[[Saving South Sudan]] ''(How refugees can open U.S. refugee quotas so their families can come, and How Refugees can heal the government of South Sudan so their families won't have to leave) ''
  
:To indent a paragraph about 3 spaces, put a colon (:) at the beginning. The whole paragraph will be indented; you don't have to break it up into short lines.
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[[Saving South Sudan - general discussion]]
  
<blockquote>To indent both the left and right sides of a paragraph about 7 spaces, put <nowiki><blockquote></nowiki>  at the beginning of the paragraph and <nowiki></blockquote></nowiki> at the end. </blockquote>
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[[Optional: Turn your Response into a New Article]]
  
To make symbols appear which normally are part of wiki formatting code, such as <nowiki> angle brackets (<>)</nowiki> or <nowiki>regular brackets ([]),</nowiki> surround the symbols with <nowiki><nowiki>__</nowiki></nowiki>
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[[Principles of the proposed UTSS Constitution in the Bible]]
  
To sign your contribution, type 4 "tildes". <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki>Those are the squiggles (~) in the upper left of your keyboard. When you click "save", your name, state, and political party will be posted.
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===Other Political Issues===
  
'''Copying and pasting Wordpress articles.''' If you are copying lots of text, or a whole article, from another post, some html will work here but not all. What will not, will show up as garbage text which you will have to delete.  
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[[File:SinTiny.gif|center]]
  
For example, <nowiki><b>html code for "bold"</b></nowiki> works in wiki software as well as the preferred <nowiki>''' </nowiki>on each side of what you want in bold. The same goes for <nowiki><i>html code for "italics"</i></nowiki> instead of the preferred <nowiki>'' </nowiki> on either side, and <nowiki><H1>html code for "Heading"</H1></nowiki> instead of the preferred equals signs on either side. (No guarantees the html will still work when the wiki software is updated.) Outbound links in html don't work, however.
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==Spiritual Preparation for Action==
  
But if you copy and paste "rich text" - that is, where the codes don't appear but the formatting and links all look great, none of the formatting or links will transfer; just the plain text. The icons that appear at the top of your edit space when you click "edit" will help you reconstruct them.
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[[Multitude Of Counsellors Project]]
  
'''More about the icons that appear when you edit'''
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[[America got Freedom from the Bible]]
  
'''Internal link''' - 3rd icon from left: To link to any article on this site, type the title of that article and either enclose it with double brackets or highlight it and click the "Internal Link" icon. The link is case sensitive, so capitalize the way the article title reads. To link to a section within the article, place a hashtag (#) after the headline title and type the su. bheading title after the hashtag. Copy whatever spaces are between the words of either title, but don't put a space on either side of the hashtag.   
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[[Upon this Rock I will build my Congress]] <> [[Part Two: WHICH "Rock"?]] <> [[Part Three: Politics in the Gates]] <> [[Part Four: Congregation/Congress v. “Church”]] <> [[Part Five: The Congress of Living Stones]]
  
'''External Link''' To link to any other web page, type the word(s) you want the link on, highlight it or them, and click the globe icon, 4th from left. In the box that appears, type the complete web address (URL) including the http://... To do the same thing manually, type a left bracket, then the web address, a space, the words you want linked, and then a right bracket. If you just type the URL (web address), including the <code>http://,</code> that will activate the link, if you don't need another word or phrase linked.
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[[What God says we will accomplish by meeting His way]] (Invitation to join a "Multitude of Counsellors", Proverbs 15:22)
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[[God's Relationship Primer]]
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[[The Bible on Equal Rights for Women: Did God Write "For Men Only" on the Pulpit?]]
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[[Psychology vs. the Bible]]
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[[What we can Pray for that isn't Forbidden by Prophecy]]
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[[The fewer who are willing to manage the interactions of citizens the closer their only possible government comes to being a dictatorship]]
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[[Evidence that in God All Nations May Trust]]
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[[Shining "the Gospel" Outside the Bushel]]
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[[Gospel Light turned off by Christians]]
  
==<span style="color:red">C</span><span style="color:#0f0">O</span><span style="color:#0000FF">L</span><span style="color:red">O</span><span style="color:#0f0">R</span><span style="color:#0000FF">!</span>==
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==Reasoning with Pastors==
  
To make a word have colour, use:
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This section is for reports of dialog with pastors about those "Noninvolvement Theologies" that are keeping the "Armies of God" from shining the Light (of what God says about our national abominations) out into the government-entangled Darkness outside the church walls - out in those forums where voters decide whether to pattern our laws after the principles of Heaven or of Hell. Even where pastors give occasional sermons identifying some of those abominations, and more rarely direct token political action, there remain prohibitions against other churchgoers besides the pastor being allowed, on church premises and through church communication channels, to discuss, reason, investigate, strategize, and take action together, not limited to the pastor's political knowledge, to shine that Light out where it will get rid of some of that Darkness. See [[Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction]] for Dave Leach's explanation of why he is publishing these reports of dialog with several pastors which, as they occurred over the past 30 years, he did not expect to make public.
<code><nowiki><span style="color:</nowiki>''hex triplet or colour name''<nowiki>">text</span></nowiki></code>
 
  
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<blockquote>Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. - Matthew 5:13-16</blockquote>
*<code><nowiki><span style="color:red">red writing</span></nowiki></code> shows as <span style="color:red">red writing</span>
 
*<code><nowiki><span style="color:#0f0">green writing</span></nowiki></code> shows as <span style="color:#0f0">green writing</span>
 
*<code><nowiki><span style="color:#0000FF">blue writing</span></nowiki></code> shows as <span style="color:#0000FF">blue writing</span>
 
  
Caution: wiki software uses red to indicate a headline for an article not yet created, and blue to indicate a headline for an article that ''has'' been created. So if you use red or blue for single words or very short phrases, that will only confuse people who will try to click on it, expecting a link. So only use red and blue for whole sentences or paragraphs. The link below gives more color options.
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<blockquote>Thou shalt not mix politics and religion. - 2 Denominations 3:16</blockquote>
  
More [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Using_colours information.]
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<blockquote>Thou shalt not talk about anything controversial in church. That is, anything important enough that the discovery of disagreement in another is disturbing. - 1 Controversies 23</blockquote>
  
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[[Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction]]
  
Consult the [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's Guide] for information on using the wiki software.
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[[Pastor Terry Amann, Church of the Way]]

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     You can "comment" not only at the end of any article here, but in the article, by the point with which you want to interact. You can also vote, "Like", rate, or argue. Also you can change your past comment, add a section with a heading that appears in the Table of Contents, start a new article, use colors, or write in Greek! Find suggestions and codes at Begin!

Politics

Election Fraud What can we do to ensure future fair elections? Consider the degree of election fraud we have just been through, the degree of Republican acceptance of the results as correct despite the fraud, and now with the fraud machine in charge of the U.S. legislature and presidency while promising to pack the courts, while free speech is being completely shut down in our newsrooms and social media against any suggestion of the least fraud. What will keep fraud from spreading to the remaining 44 states, and from presidential elections on down the line - if they haven't already? What courageous new movement will rise to restore honest elections?

God's Coronavirus Cure in 3 Verses (Probably a situation that brings most politics to a screeching halt, shutting down entire legislatures, should be classified as "political")

Judicial Accountability Act: How Legislatures can stop judges from legislating

This Judge ruled like a Christian Historian

Climate Change

Life

Scriptures SCOTUS must address before saying Christianity supports abortion Roe v. Wade said part of the reason "the judiciary, at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is unable to speculate as to the answer...to 'when life begins'" was because preachers and doctors don't agree! Yet no preacher from the last 1,000 years was consulted! So obviously, SCOTUS' theology is due for an update.

A Law Designed to Force Courts to Address Evidence of Life

Four_Drawbacks_of_a_No-Right-to-Abortion_State_Constitutional_Amendment

Answers to Lawmakers' Objections

The consensus of court-recognized fact-finders that babies are people even before they are born

Abortion Law Alabama

Missouri Encyclopedia of Abortion Arguments

Abortion

Outreach to 2800 Republican Lawmakers in 30 States where Republicans Control Both Chambers

Forsythe

Freedom of Speech

Free Speech Laws, Precedents & Scripture

Immigration

Another AntiImmigrant Bible Claim

Deadly Immigration Rhetoric

Many of our ancestors documented THEMSELVES

The Immigration Solution best for our Economy, our Security, and our Faith

Cruz, Trump, Keyes, and the Bible

"Never Trump" and the Bible

Democrat Platform on immigration

Republican Platform on immigration

Republican and Democrat Immigration Platforms are Similar

Immigration (Comparing what parties and candidates say)

Setting Immigration Quotas - the Mystery of the Wages (There is no measure of the number best for citizens)

Whose Expertise Inspired Our Immigration Laws? (U.S. immigration policy is driven by those who have least studied the key facts)

Personal to Ted Cruz

Sudan

Saving South Sudan (How refugees can open U.S. refugee quotas so their families can come, and How Refugees can heal the government of South Sudan so their families won't have to leave)

Saving South Sudan - general discussion

Optional: Turn your Response into a New Article

Principles of the proposed UTSS Constitution in the Bible

Other Political Issues

SinTiny.gif

Spiritual Preparation for Action

Multitude Of Counsellors Project

America got Freedom from the Bible

Upon this Rock I will build my Congress <> Part Two: WHICH "Rock"? <> Part Three: Politics in the Gates <> Part Four: Congregation/Congress v. “Church” <> Part Five: The Congress of Living Stones

What God says we will accomplish by meeting His way (Invitation to join a "Multitude of Counsellors", Proverbs 15:22)

God's Relationship Primer

The Bible on Equal Rights for Women: Did God Write "For Men Only" on the Pulpit?

Psychology vs. the Bible

What we can Pray for that isn't Forbidden by Prophecy

The fewer who are willing to manage the interactions of citizens the closer their only possible government comes to being a dictatorship

Evidence that in God All Nations May Trust

Shining "the Gospel" Outside the Bushel

Gospel Light turned off by Christians

Reasoning with Pastors

This section is for reports of dialog with pastors about those "Noninvolvement Theologies" that are keeping the "Armies of God" from shining the Light (of what God says about our national abominations) out into the government-entangled Darkness outside the church walls - out in those forums where voters decide whether to pattern our laws after the principles of Heaven or of Hell. Even where pastors give occasional sermons identifying some of those abominations, and more rarely direct token political action, there remain prohibitions against other churchgoers besides the pastor being allowed, on church premises and through church communication channels, to discuss, reason, investigate, strategize, and take action together, not limited to the pastor's political knowledge, to shine that Light out where it will get rid of some of that Darkness. See Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction for Dave Leach's explanation of why he is publishing these reports of dialog with several pastors which, as they occurred over the past 30 years, he did not expect to make public.

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. - Matthew 5:13-16
Thou shalt not mix politics and religion. - 2 Denominations 3:16
Thou shalt not talk about anything controversial in church. That is, anything important enough that the discovery of disagreement in another is disturbing. - 1 Controversies 23

Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction

Pastor Terry Amann, Church of the Way