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==Politics==
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===Vaccines, Masks, Censors===
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[[VA_Hospital,_asked_for_medical_justification_for_mask_policy,_consults_lawyers]]
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[[God's Coronavirus Cure in 3 Verses]] (Probably a situation that brings most politics to a screeching halt, shutting down entire legislatures, should be classified as "political")
  
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[[Cure for Covid Censors]] '''A petition to state governors''': "Governors: base mandates on ALL the science. Sponsor an Online Forum where Doctors can Interact without fear of Censorship, which you will use as a knowlege base for your emergency orders." (See this article for complete information, and model Emergency Powers legislation. See [https://citizengo.org/en-us/node/204001?tcid=89997709 PETITION] for an online petition at CitizenGo.)
  
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[[Application_for_Religious/Secular Exemption from Mask Vaccine & testing_Mandates]]
  
[[Optional: Turn your Response into a New Article]]
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'''Section One''' of this Application explains (1) my reverence for Truth and evidence, (2) the Bible’s emphasis on Truth and evidence, (3) Bible heroes who resisted health laws not based on reality, (4) why mask and vaccine mandates which cannot rationally claim support from evidence must be classified as “religious”, and are presented as false gods, and (5) what the Bible says about bowing down to false gods, and the importance of openly, decisively disclaiming them. Section One presents legal analysis of the First Amendment prohibition of “establishment of religion”, as well as theological analysis.
  
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[[Application for Secular/Religious Exemption from Mask/Vaccine Mandate - Section Two, The Evidence]] '''Section Two''' of this Application reviews medical research that shows (1) masks do not slow covid spread with any “statistical significance”, (2) masks cause serious medical and emotional problems, most tragically in children, (3) vaccines cause more deaths than covid, and (4) government blockage of proven covid cures points to some other government purpose than reducing covid. But you probably don’t need this evidence; you probably have plenty of your own, or you wouldn’t want an exemption. This information is widely available, and expands daily, so Section Two is out of date anyway. (Section Two also lists arguments common in other Applications for Religious Exemption: vaccines are developed from a murdered baby, and the Bible calls us to treat our bodies as the Temple of God.)
  
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[[Covid_Updates]] (through 2020)
  
[[Judicial Accountability Act: How Legislatures can stop judges from legislating]]
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[[Free Speech Laws, Precedents & Scripture]]
  
 
===Life===
 
===Life===
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[[Alito Draft Treats ITS A BABY as a Matter of Opinion]] This is a letter written to six conservative Supreme Court justices June 15.
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[[Troubling Excerpts & Analysis from Dobbs v. Jackson]] SCOTUS ruled that "it's a baby" is a matter of opinion beyond the ability of courts to resolve, so voters - not courts - should decide whether to keep baby killing legal.  SCOTUS doesn't treat the humanity of any ''other'' group of people as too subjective to require EVERY state to outlaw murdering them.
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At least aborticide is not a "fundamental right" - though not because babies are people so killing them is murder, but because it hasn't been legal in past centuries??!!! If crimes against people should be kept legal according to whether they have been legal in past centuries, with no discussion of the very real people hurt by them, then slavery should still be legal.
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[[Valentine Letter to Supreme Court Justices: outlaw baby killing in EVERY state]]
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[[Scriptures SCOTUS must address before saying Christianity supports abortion]] Roe v. Wade said part of the reason "the judiciary, at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is unable to speculate as to the answer...to 'when life begins'" was because preachers and doctors don't agree! Yet no preacher from the last 1,000 years was consulted! So obviously, SCOTUS' theology is due for an update. 
  
 
[[A Law Designed to Force Courts to Address Evidence of Life]]
 
[[A Law Designed to Force Courts to Address Evidence of Life]]
  
[[Four Drawbacks of a "No Right to Abortion" State Constitutional Amendment]]
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[[Answers to Lawmakers' Objections]]
 
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[[Abortion Law Alabama]]
  
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[[Another AntiImmigrant Bible Claim]]
  
 
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[[Saving South Sudan - general discussion]]
 
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[[Optional: Turn your Response into a New Article]]
  
 
[[Principles of the proposed UTSS Constitution in the Bible]]
 
[[Principles of the proposed UTSS Constitution in the Bible]]
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===Other Political Issues===
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[[Racism - Whether Blacks are even Citizens - A Debate]]
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[[Judicial Accountability Act: How Legislatures can stop judges from legislating]]
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[[Election Fraud]] What can we do to ensure future fair elections? Consider the degree of election fraud we have just been through, the degree of Republican acceptance of the results as correct despite the fraud, and now with the fraud machine in charge of the U.S. legislature and presidency while promising to pack the courts, while free speech is being completely shut down in our newsrooms and social media against any suggestion of the least fraud. What will keep fraud from spreading to the remaining 44 states, and from presidential elections on down the line - if they haven't already? What courageous new movement will rise to restore honest elections?
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[[This Judge ruled like a Christian Historian]]
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[[Climate Change]]
  
 
==Spiritual Preparation for Action==
 
==Spiritual Preparation for Action==
  
[[Upon this Rock I will build my Congress]]  
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[[How God's Blueprints for Christian Meetings Gave America its Freedoms in the 1620's - Why they Offer "eye hath not seen" Freedoms in the 2020's]]
[[Part Two: WHICH "Rock"?]]
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[[Part Three: The Rock Congress]]
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<blockquote>[[1: Obeying God beats traditional worship]]
[[Part Four: The Congress of Living Stones]]
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[[2: "Good works", not just talk with no intent to act, are God’s goals for meetings]]
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[[3: God answers prayers through forums where “all” reason and “exhort”. Sermons aren’t mentioned.]]
  
[[Invitation to a Multitude of Counsellors]]
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[[4: Bible heroes, like God, are very Political]]
  
[[Bible Guidelines for Relationships]]
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[[5: "The Gospel" is not just about Heaven, but also about Heroic Hard Work Here]]
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[[6: "Light in the Darkness" means quoting God about Darkness in the Darkness]]
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[[7: The "Cross" we must carry is an "easy yoke", a "light burden". It is a reward. It is Life, now. It may "cost" money, friends, wealth, careers, comfort, life, but not anything we need]]
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[[Are Christians Happier?]]
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[[Multitude Of Counsellors Project]]
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[[America got Freedom from the Bible]]
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[[Upon this Rock I will build my Congress]] <> [[Part Two: WHICH "Rock"?]] <> [[Part Three: Politics in the Gates]] <> [[Part Four: Congregation/Congress v. “Church”]] <> [[Part Five: The Congress of Living Stones]]
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[[What God says we will accomplish by meeting His way]] (Invitation to join a "Multitude of Counsellors", Proverbs 15:22)
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[[God's Relationship Primer]]
  
 
[[The Bible on Equal Rights for Women: Did God Write "For Men Only" on the Pulpit?]]
 
[[The Bible on Equal Rights for Women: Did God Write "For Men Only" on the Pulpit?]]
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[[What we can Pray for that isn't Forbidden by Prophecy]]
  
[[The fewer who are willing to manage the interactions of citizens, the closer their only possible government comes to being a dictatorship]]
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==Reasoning with Pastors==
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This section is for reports of dialog with pastors about those "Noninvolvement Theologies" that are keeping the "Armies of God" from shining the Light (of what God says about our national abominations) out into the government-entangled Darkness outside the church walls - out in those forums where voters decide whether to pattern our laws after the principles of Heaven or of Hell. Even where pastors give occasional sermons identifying some of those abominations, and more rarely direct token political action, there remain prohibitions against other churchgoers besides the pastor being allowed, on church premises and through church communication channels, to discuss, reason, investigate, strategize, and take action together, not limited to the pastor's political knowledge, to shine that Light out where it will get rid of some of that Darkness. See [[Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction]] for Dave Leach's explanation of why he is publishing these reports of dialog with several pastors which, as they occurred over the past 30 years, he did not expect to make public.
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<blockquote>Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. - Matthew 5:13-16</blockquote>
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<blockquote>Thou shalt not mix politics and religion. - 2 Denominations 3:16</blockquote>
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<blockquote>Thou shalt not talk about anything controversial in church. That is, anything important enough that the discovery of disagreement in another is disturbing. - 1 Controversies 23</blockquote>
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[[Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction]]
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[[Pastor Terry Amann, Church of the Way]]

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     You can "comment" not only at the end of any article here, but in the article, by the point with which you want to interact. You can also vote, "Like", rate, or argue. Also you can change your past comment, add a section with a heading that appears in the Table of Contents, start a new article, use colors, or write in Greek! Find suggestions and codes at Begin!

Politics

Vaccines, Masks, Censors

VA_Hospital,_asked_for_medical_justification_for_mask_policy,_consults_lawyers

God's Coronavirus Cure in 3 Verses (Probably a situation that brings most politics to a screeching halt, shutting down entire legislatures, should be classified as "political")

Cure for Covid Censors A petition to state governors: "Governors: base mandates on ALL the science. Sponsor an Online Forum where Doctors can Interact without fear of Censorship, which you will use as a knowlege base for your emergency orders." (See this article for complete information, and model Emergency Powers legislation. See PETITION for an online petition at CitizenGo.)

Application_for_Religious/Secular Exemption from Mask Vaccine & testing_Mandates

Section One of this Application explains (1) my reverence for Truth and evidence, (2) the Bible’s emphasis on Truth and evidence, (3) Bible heroes who resisted health laws not based on reality, (4) why mask and vaccine mandates which cannot rationally claim support from evidence must be classified as “religious”, and are presented as false gods, and (5) what the Bible says about bowing down to false gods, and the importance of openly, decisively disclaiming them. Section One presents legal analysis of the First Amendment prohibition of “establishment of religion”, as well as theological analysis.

Application for Secular/Religious Exemption from Mask/Vaccine Mandate - Section Two, The Evidence Section Two of this Application reviews medical research that shows (1) masks do not slow covid spread with any “statistical significance”, (2) masks cause serious medical and emotional problems, most tragically in children, (3) vaccines cause more deaths than covid, and (4) government blockage of proven covid cures points to some other government purpose than reducing covid. But you probably don’t need this evidence; you probably have plenty of your own, or you wouldn’t want an exemption. This information is widely available, and expands daily, so Section Two is out of date anyway. (Section Two also lists arguments common in other Applications for Religious Exemption: vaccines are developed from a murdered baby, and the Bible calls us to treat our bodies as the Temple of God.)

Covid_Updates (through 2020)

Free Speech Laws, Precedents & Scripture

Life

Alito Draft Treats ITS A BABY as a Matter of Opinion This is a letter written to six conservative Supreme Court justices June 15.

Troubling Excerpts & Analysis from Dobbs v. Jackson SCOTUS ruled that "it's a baby" is a matter of opinion beyond the ability of courts to resolve, so voters - not courts - should decide whether to keep baby killing legal. SCOTUS doesn't treat the humanity of any other group of people as too subjective to require EVERY state to outlaw murdering them.

At least aborticide is not a "fundamental right" - though not because babies are people so killing them is murder, but because it hasn't been legal in past centuries??!!! If crimes against people should be kept legal according to whether they have been legal in past centuries, with no discussion of the very real people hurt by them, then slavery should still be legal.

Valentine Letter to Supreme Court Justices: outlaw baby killing in EVERY state

Scriptures SCOTUS must address before saying Christianity supports abortion Roe v. Wade said part of the reason "the judiciary, at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is unable to speculate as to the answer...to 'when life begins'" was because preachers and doctors don't agree! Yet no preacher from the last 1,000 years was consulted! So obviously, SCOTUS' theology is due for an update.

A Law Designed to Force Courts to Address Evidence of Life

Four_Drawbacks_of_a_No-Right-to-Abortion_State_Constitutional_Amendment

Answers to Lawmakers' Objections

The consensus of court-recognized fact-finders that babies are people even before they are born

Abortion Law Alabama

Missouri Encyclopedia of Abortion Arguments

Abortion

Outreach to 2800 Republican Lawmakers in 30 States where Republicans Control Both Chambers

Forsythe

Immigration

Another AntiImmigrant Bible Claim

Deadly Immigration Rhetoric

Many of our ancestors documented THEMSELVES

The Immigration Solution best for our Economy, our Security, and our Faith

Cruz, Trump, Keyes, and the Bible

"Never Trump" and the Bible

Democrat Platform on immigration

Republican Platform on immigration

Republican and Democrat Immigration Platforms are Similar

Immigration (Comparing what parties and candidates say)

Setting Immigration Quotas - the Mystery of the Wages (There is no measure of the number best for citizens)

Whose Expertise Inspired Our Immigration Laws? (U.S. immigration policy is driven by those who have least studied the key facts)

Personal to Ted Cruz

Sudan

Saving South Sudan (How refugees can open U.S. refugee quotas so their families can come, and How Refugees can heal the government of South Sudan so their families won't have to leave)

Saving South Sudan - general discussion

Optional: Turn your Response into a New Article

Principles of the proposed UTSS Constitution in the Bible

Other Political Issues

[File:SinTiny.gif|center]]

Racism - Whether Blacks are even Citizens - A Debate

Judicial Accountability Act: How Legislatures can stop judges from legislating

Election Fraud What can we do to ensure future fair elections? Consider the degree of election fraud we have just been through, the degree of Republican acceptance of the results as correct despite the fraud, and now with the fraud machine in charge of the U.S. legislature and presidency while promising to pack the courts, while free speech is being completely shut down in our newsrooms and social media against any suggestion of the least fraud. What will keep fraud from spreading to the remaining 44 states, and from presidential elections on down the line - if they haven't already? What courageous new movement will rise to restore honest elections?

This Judge ruled like a Christian Historian

Climate Change

Spiritual Preparation for Action

How God's Blueprints for Christian Meetings Gave America its Freedoms in the 1620's - Why they Offer "eye hath not seen" Freedoms in the 2020's

1: Obeying God beats traditional worship

2: "Good works", not just talk with no intent to act, are God’s goals for meetings

3: God answers prayers through forums where “all” reason and “exhort”. Sermons aren’t mentioned.

4: Bible heroes, like God, are very Political

5: "The Gospel" is not just about Heaven, but also about Heroic Hard Work Here

6: "Light in the Darkness" means quoting God about Darkness in the Darkness

7: The "Cross" we must carry is an "easy yoke", a "light burden". It is a reward. It is Life, now. It may "cost" money, friends, wealth, careers, comfort, life, but not anything we need


Are Christians Happier?

Multitude Of Counsellors Project

America got Freedom from the Bible

Upon this Rock I will build my Congress <> Part Two: WHICH "Rock"? <> Part Three: Politics in the Gates <> Part Four: Congregation/Congress v. “Church” <> Part Five: The Congress of Living Stones

What God says we will accomplish by meeting His way (Invitation to join a "Multitude of Counsellors", Proverbs 15:22)

God's Relationship Primer

The Bible on Equal Rights for Women: Did God Write "For Men Only" on the Pulpit?

Psychology vs. the Bible

What we can Pray for that isn't Forbidden by Prophecy

The fewer who are willing to manage the interactions of citizens the closer their only possible government comes to being a dictatorship

Evidence that in God All Nations May Trust

Shining "the Gospel" Outside the Bushel

Gospel Light turned off by Christians

Reasoning with Pastors

This section is for reports of dialog with pastors about those "Noninvolvement Theologies" that are keeping the "Armies of God" from shining the Light (of what God says about our national abominations) out into the government-entangled Darkness outside the church walls - out in those forums where voters decide whether to pattern our laws after the principles of Heaven or of Hell. Even where pastors give occasional sermons identifying some of those abominations, and more rarely direct token political action, there remain prohibitions against other churchgoers besides the pastor being allowed, on church premises and through church communication channels, to discuss, reason, investigate, strategize, and take action together, not limited to the pastor's political knowledge, to shine that Light out where it will get rid of some of that Darkness. See Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction for Dave Leach's explanation of why he is publishing these reports of dialog with several pastors which, as they occurred over the past 30 years, he did not expect to make public.

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. - Matthew 5:13-16
Thou shalt not mix politics and religion. - 2 Denominations 3:16
Thou shalt not talk about anything controversial in church. That is, anything important enough that the discovery of disagreement in another is disturbing. - 1 Controversies 23

Reasoning with Pastors - Introduction

Pastor Terry Amann, Church of the Way