Trump - America Needs Him but not his Pride or his Sodomite Patronage

Forum (Articles)

Offer

Partners

Rules

Tips

SaveTheWorld:FAQ

Begin!

Donate

This forum was created by Dave Leach R-IA Bible Lover-musician-grandpa (talk) 14:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC) to help prolifers discuss the most effective evidence and legal arguments to include in legislation designed to force courts to address the overwhelming consensus of court-recognized fact finders that babies are people, which requires all states to outlaw abortion, according to the 14th Amendment, as Roe pointed, which Dobbs did not challenge. The original post of this article was condensed from "How States Can Outlaw Abortion in a Way that Survives Courts", by Dave Leach. Available as a paperback, Kindle, or as a free PDF.

---

Register (see Begin!) and join the discussion. Vote. Improve it. Critique it. Sign your name with 4 tildes ((~~~~)).

---

Bible perspectives by Scott Lively (pastor, lawyer, anti-sodomy activist from Oregon to Uganda), David Lane (organizer of American Renewal Project which brings pastors to hear political leaders and encourages them to run for office) and Dave Leach, website guy

Scott Lively, J.D., Th.D.

Prideful Trump and the Bible’s Hard Red Line on Sodom

Who enclosed the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, 

when I made the clouds its garment and thick darkness its blanket,  when I fixed its boundaries and set in place its bars and doors, and I declared:  ‘You may come this far, but no farther; here your proud waves must stop’? 

(Job 38:8-11).

Pride is the original sin

Pride is the original sin – born from self-awareness in the mind of every created being of the higher orders – perverted by the lust for self-aggrandizement in defiance of the Creator. Pride was the poison that toppled Lucifer, the Guardian Cherub who had walked in Eden and among the fire stones but who presumed to covet God’s throne (Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14). And Pride is the defining crime of the end-times Satanic army which has presumed to covet God’s rainbow as both a parade banner beneath which it mocks Him, and a garment within which it wraps the ultimate form of human rebellion: male-on-male sodomy. “They display their sin like Sodom; They do not even conceal it. Woe to them! For they have brought evil on themselves” (Isaiah 3:9).  

Pride is the greatest flaw of our great political hero of 2016, Donald Trump. We all know it and have overlooked it for political expedience because he has been such a great champion against the truly wicked deep state. At the human level pride is not such a huge problem as to disqualify someone from leadership, and in fact most if not all of our leaders have suffered it to one degree or another. And Trump’s openness about his pridefulness has, to a point, actually been a refreshing change from the pretense of false modesty and the self-serving guile that has come to define the political class.

“Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good” (Ezekiel 16:49-50). This was the sequence that destroyed Sodom, then ancient Israel, and now America. Pride leads to abomination, specifically the sexual perversion of male homosexuality which defined Sodom and which justified God’s genocide of the Canaanites – in His own words (Leviticus 18:22-30).   

Leviticus 18:22  Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23  Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. 24  Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 25  And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 26  Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 27  (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) 28  That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

 

But Pride in the sense of spiritual impertinence toward God is the yuugest of problems as King Nebuchadnezzar learned, when he declared “ ‘Is this not Babylon the Great, which I myself have built by the might of my power as a royal residence and for the glory of my majesty?’ While the words were still in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven: ‘It is decreed to you, King Nebuchadnezzar, that the kingdom has departed from you’ ” (Daniel 4:30-31). Is an attitude much like this the reason why God allowed Trump to be de-throned in 2020? 

Dishonorable Sodomy

More likely, it was Trump’s embrace of the LGBT agenda and the dangerous empowerment of open homosexual activists like Ric Grennell. Consider carefully the New Testament’s doctrinal counterpart to Leviticus 18 in Romans 1:26-32 “For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. Likewise, the men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. [And]...Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.” 

God drew a hard red line in Scripture linking Leviticus 19 and Romans 1 as the two witnesses (Jewish and Christian) against Sodom. Those who cross that line have failed His test of discernment about the things of this world and invite serious moral confusion into their lives.  

There aren’t many Christian leaders left in America these days who actually adhere to the Bible on this most fundamental of truths relative to human civilization. They’ve been bought off by Soros, or intimidated into compromise by fear of LGBT wrath (which is, as I know first-hand, very fierce), or shamed into silence by their own sexual self-indulgences. But as God has promised, there always remains a remnant to be a witness to the truths the world does not want to hear. 

Today, I call for that remnant to rise up across this land and challenge Donald Trump to repent of his embrace of what he calls “gay rights” but what we know is the spiritually and socially deadly act of approval of sodomy, which is literally the harbinger of God’s wrath from Genesis to Revelation. And while we are at it, let us issue that same challenge to Tulsi Gabbard, Kari Lake and every other MAGA-aligned leader who has sold out God to curry favor with the world. 

Pray & Act for Repentance

Make no mistake, my purpose here is to help President Trump, not to hurt him. In my view as a stanchly Bible-grounded pastor and 30-year missionary to the global pro-family movement, Trump cannot win God’s favor in his pursuit of the White House in 2024 if he does not repent of his approval of what God had declared not just a sin but an ABOMINATION. This is AMERICA! – the nation founded upon the Bible in the model of the Israelite Republic, and it cannot be made great again by defying the God of the Bible and dishonoring the sacrifice of the Founders who bequeathed this land to us by trampling their moral code into the mud!  

But what could happen is that, like King Saul who started right but turned evil, Trump could end up being like one of the very tyrants we raised him up to overthrow.  [Ed: Sic - does he mean "one of the very tyrants God raised up to overthrow"?]

Sin Spreads like Cancer - Repentance puts it in Remission

  No one who intentionally suppresses the truth of God on one issue stops with one. Sin is progressive, it spreads like a cancer in your heart and mind. That’s the main lesson of Romans 1! Only repentance puts that cancer into remission and stops your slide toward the “reprobate mind.” Trump went from an initial tepid acceptance of open homosexuals in his support base in 2016 to a full throated advocacy of “gay rights” on the very day the “Defilement of Marriage Act” became law. [Ed: In December, 2022.] Next he’ll endorse parts and then all of the transsexual agenda, then transhumanism, like he caved on the fake vax. It’s an inevitable slippery slope of the mind for a politician (which, unfortunately, he seems to have become). UNLESS he repents, if he is capable of it -- As Old Nebs did and was restored to power! (Daniel 4:31-3=7).

Consequences

I have been one of Donald Trump’s strongest defenders. I ran for governor of Massachusetts in 2018 on the motto “Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Trump.” But for real Christians, when it comes to choosing Trump or the Bible, there is no contest: Trump must lose as a matter of preserving our spiritual integrity. If 2024 comes down to just another choice of the lesser of two evils – both allied with the King of Sodom -- I may not even vote. But while there is still a chance in these early days of the election cycle to win Trump back from the clutches of the Rainbow Reprobates, his Christian base should go all out to do so, and only then fully back him.