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But when I talk about really huge goals, the hope and indeed expectation of seeing A LOT accomplished before I die, against evil in the world, Christians tell me such a prayer goal is against prophecy: prophecy says the world will get worse and worse in the Last Days. So how can I Biblically pray for A LOT of accomplishment against evil?
 
But when I talk about really huge goals, the hope and indeed expectation of seeing A LOT accomplished before I die, against evil in the world, Christians tell me such a prayer goal is against prophecy: prophecy says the world will get worse and worse in the Last Days. So how can I Biblically pray for A LOT of accomplishment against evil?
  
So the article is my prayer. It is my vision of what I can pray for that doesn't "violate prophecy".  
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So this article is my prayer. It is my vision of what I can pray for that doesn't "violate prophecy".  
  
First of all, we don't know the Last Days timeline. We don't know how much time is left. I have thought The End must be within the next half dozen years for the past 60 years. We should not make a limit we can't establish our excuse for making our struggle against evil small. In fact, to do so makes us part of the evil that strangles the world.  
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First of all, we don't know the Last Days timeline. We don't know how much time is left. I have thought The End must be within the next half dozen years for the past 60 years. We should not make a limit which we can't establish our excuse for making our struggle against evil small. In fact, to do so makes us part of the evil that strangles the world. It puts our "fire insurance policy" at risk of default.  
  
 
Second, even if Antichrist reveals himself tomorrow, Bible prophecy says he will have enemies that he will fight against. I aim to be one of those enemies, if I live that long. In fact, I aim to be one of those enemies who are so successful that Antichrist will have to send his armies out to stop me.  
 
Second, even if Antichrist reveals himself tomorrow, Bible prophecy says he will have enemies that he will fight against. I aim to be one of those enemies, if I live that long. In fact, I aim to be one of those enemies who are so successful that Antichrist will have to send his armies out to stop me.  
  
 
<span style="color:red">Revelation 13:7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.</span>
 
<span style="color:red">Revelation 13:7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.</span>
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So with Jesus' blessing, I will pray as big as I can dream. My limit is not prophecy. My only limit is what would be good.
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I would like to pray for the work I am doing to be so successful that there will be worldwide revival, and all the governments and churches of the land will be righteous. But would that be good? How many people WANT evil kicked back to Hell, and the world ruled by righteous governments and led by righteous churches? God grieves that people don't want Him.
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<span style="color:red">Matthew 23:37  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!</span>
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But God doesn't want to come as a dictator and send police out to drag people into righteous living.
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<span style="color:red">John 6:15  When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
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Matthew 4:8  Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9  And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.</span>
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So what can I pray for that leaves people's Free Will intact?
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I can pray for two things:
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(1) That enough people will join me in studying God's will for Christian gatherings, reasoning with each other, to establish great precision in our understanding of those Scriptures.
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Or if anyone is already doing that, with the intention of establishing what they document the Scriptures urge, tell me where, so ''I'' can join ''them''! But where is it happening? Where is there an assembly of people who love the Lord enough to reexamine all they assume about Christian meetings? In every church I know about, anyone suggesting they study whether Scripture calls for a very different manner of meetings than their denomination has followed for the past several centuries, would be asked to leave for being "divisive".  It is not a question that would be welcome in any seminary I can imagine, because people go into debt several years' worth of salaries to graduate from a denomination's seminary in order to get a job in a church of that denomination to pay off that debt, but if they dare entertain serious questions about the denomination's official assumptions, they won't get a job.
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But a "Multitude of Counsellors" willing to address the question will succeed, God promises:
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To the tune of La Bamba:

Let's go out and move a mountain!

Jesus said that with a little faith we can make a mountain go swimming!

Evil, evil, evil mountain, bye bye bye!

Chorus: Bye bye mountain! Evil mountain! Evil mountain, bye bye bye!

2. I no longer see a mountain!

Where the evil mountain swam

I can see nothing left but a few bubbles!

Bubbles, bubbles bubbles, Mountain, bye bye bye (Chorus)

3. I remember evil mountain.

Jesus told us with some prayer and action

evil would jump into mem’ry.

Thank you Jesus, you make evil go away! (Chorus)

4. Children, they no see the mountain.

They no see that it was evil.

They don’t think it could be so bad. We’re just

old, old fashioned folks who don’t like to have fun!

(Chorus:) Hello Mountain, Evil mountain, Evil mountain, Not again!

But when I talk about really huge goals, the hope and indeed expectation of seeing A LOT accomplished before I die, against evil in the world, Christians tell me such a prayer goal is against prophecy: prophecy says the world will get worse and worse in the Last Days. So how can I Biblically pray for A LOT of accomplishment against evil?

So this article is my prayer. It is my vision of what I can pray for that doesn't "violate prophecy".

First of all, we don't know the Last Days timeline. We don't know how much time is left. I have thought The End must be within the next half dozen years for the past 60 years. We should not make a limit which we can't establish our excuse for making our struggle against evil small. In fact, to do so makes us part of the evil that strangles the world. It puts our "fire insurance policy" at risk of default.

Second, even if Antichrist reveals himself tomorrow, Bible prophecy says he will have enemies that he will fight against. I aim to be one of those enemies, if I live that long. In fact, I aim to be one of those enemies who are so successful that Antichrist will have to send his armies out to stop me.

Revelation 13:7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

So with Jesus' blessing, I will pray as big as I can dream. My limit is not prophecy. My only limit is what would be good.

I would like to pray for the work I am doing to be so successful that there will be worldwide revival, and all the governments and churches of the land will be righteous. But would that be good? How many people WANT evil kicked back to Hell, and the world ruled by righteous governments and led by righteous churches? God grieves that people don't want Him.

Matthew 23:37  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

But God doesn't want to come as a dictator and send police out to drag people into righteous living.

John 6:15  When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. Matthew 4:8  Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9  And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

So what can I pray for that leaves people's Free Will intact?

I can pray for two things:

(1) That enough people will join me in studying God's will for Christian gatherings, reasoning with each other, to establish great precision in our understanding of those Scriptures.

Or if anyone is already doing that, with the intention of establishing what they document the Scriptures urge, tell me where, so I can join them! But where is it happening? Where is there an assembly of people who love the Lord enough to reexamine all they assume about Christian meetings? In every church I know about, anyone suggesting they study whether Scripture calls for a very different manner of meetings than their denomination has followed for the past several centuries, would be asked to leave for being "divisive". It is not a question that would be welcome in any seminary I can imagine, because people go into debt several years' worth of salaries to graduate from a denomination's seminary in order to get a job in a church of that denomination to pay off that debt, but if they dare entertain serious questions about the denomination's official assumptions, they won't get a job.

But a "Multitude of Counsellors" willing to address the question will succeed, God promises: